Guests: Daryl Hall Daryl Hall, best known as the lead vocalist and co-founder of Hall & Oates, is a singer, songwriter and producer with a collection of #1 songs to his name. He spent his formative years in Philadelphia around soul singers like Smokey Robinson.
Daryl Hall and John Oates met as students at Temple University, and went on to form a best-selling musical duo with chart-toppers like "Rich Girl", "Sara Smile", and "Private Eyes".
His newest project is a web series called Live from Daryl's House of performances and collaborations with a diverse set of musicians that's included Todd Rundgren, Toots and the Maytals, Chromeo and the Neon Trees.
JESSE THORN: It’s The Sound of Young America, I’m Jesse Thorn. My guest on the show is Daryl Hall. He’s half of the legendary, chart-busting duo Hall & Oates. He sang lead and wrote or co-wrote six number one hits with the band, and had a really astonishing string of chart successes beginning in the late 1970s and running through the mid-1980s. Now he’s decided to bring the concerts to his house with a series called “Live from Daryl’s House” that features musical collaborations with artists as diverse as Smokey Robinson and Todd Rundgren. It runs live and streaming on the web. Daryl, welcome to The Sound of Young America, it’s really great to have you on the show.
DARYL HALL: Thank you, glad to be here.
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JESSE THORN: I had never heard your early work, and when I say your early work I’m talking about your very early work until I started preparing for this interview. I want to play this song called Girl, I Love You.
DARYL HALL: That’s early work, alright!
JESSE THORN: You recorded it with your band - -
DARYL HALL: I was 17.
JESSE THORN: Let’s hear a little bit of it.
DARYL HALL: Alright.
JESSE THORN: You were 17 when you wrote that song? It’s a very assured production for being a 17 year old. You co-wrote it too, right?
DARYL HALL: I basically did write it. Somebody got their name on it, not atypical in the music business, but that was my song. The reason it sounds professional is because the backup people were Gamble and Huff. So I don’t think you can get more professional than that. This was in the beginning of their career as well as mine. They were a few years older than me, but we were all starting together in Philadelphia, and I think you can hear that Philly sound in there. That’s a quintessential early Philly record.
JESSE THORN: That song we heard was released in the mid-60s. You continued to work in the music industry in Philadelphia between the mid-60s and the early 1970s when you started to record with John Oates. What kind of work were you doing?
DARYL HALL: I was doing song writing and session work. Sort of a catchall thing, I was loosely associated with TSOP, which was the house band at Sigma Sound which made all those Philly records, and I was on what I called the B-team. If they needed an extra keyboard player or background singer, they would call me up. I was just sort of a hanger outer in that scene; again, I was a kid, and I was still going to school. But I was around it, in the midst of it. I worked with The Stylistics and the Delfonics and Three Degrees and Jerry Butler and all these people. I was just there for it all.
JESSE THORN: Were there any particular records that you had a B-team role in that were really exciting? Was there a song that you played a keyboard part on or sang a backup vocal on that became a hit?
DARYL HALL: I played on a record by a group called The Electric Indian. It made the top of the charts, I don’t know if it was number one in the Billboard charts, but it was way up there. It was called Keem-O-Sabe. One of the stupidest records you ever heard in your life.
JESSE THORN: Let’s hear a little bit of Electric Indian and Keem-O-Sabe.
Okay, so now that we really heard that dumb record; did you really meet John Oates in the aftermath of a gang fight?
DARYL HALL: That’s absolutely true. We’ve told that story a million times and it’s really what happened. I was with the Temptones, we had that record Girl, I Love You out, and John had a song called I Need Your Love, which is also on the box set. I think that’s where you found this stuff. He had a band with his sister and some other people called The Masters. We both had these 45s out, and we were part of a record hop whatever you want to call it where people would go and lip-sync their records. Yeah, a fight broke out, and the show got - - chaos ensued, and everybody was beating it out the doors. It was on the second floor and John and I both jumped on the same elevator at the same time, and that was how I found out that he was also a student at Temple, and it all sort of went from there as a friendship blossomed.
JESSE THORN: You had recorded quite a bit as Hall & Oates before you had a real smash hit in the 70s. You started recording at the very beginning of the 70s, and your first real smash was Sara Smile. You recorded a song on the previous album which was re-released after Sara Smile became a hit that I really liked that I want to play a little bit of. It’s called She’s Gone, from 1974.
What was it like to be recording these records and be charting, but nothing was really getting traction? Did you feel like you were trying to figure out what you were and trying to figure out what people liked about what you were doing?
DARYL HALL: Yeah. I think we spent a long time trying to figure out how to put ourselves across to the world in a coherent way. I’m not even sure we managed to pull it off all through the 70s, really. In the 70s there wasn’t as much pressure by record companies, or by the world, to have hit records. Artists had a lot more room to grow. What they called underground radio in those days, FM radio, we were fine on that. We got a lot of air play, She’s Gone was played. Even though we didn’t have chart success we were out there working, we had a very strong career at that point. We were making money and we were out there constantly touring.
JESSE THORN: I want to play one of your really huge hits from late in the 1970s, Rich Girl. I want to start at the very beginning, because I think the intro is so tasty, so let’s hear Rich Girl from Hall & Oates, 1977, featuring the lead vocals of my guest Daryl Hall.
JESSE THORN: Something that I started wondering when I was looking back at your discography, Daryl, was that there were so many R&B singers -- especially the sweeter ones -- that went into the 1970s, saw the disco explosion, started recording disco records, fell behind the curve, and got eaten by 1981 and 1982 and “eff disco” and the whole anti-disco backlash. There was such a huge cultural force over only a few years. What was your relationship to that huge change in the music industry?
DARYL HALL: It was a very strange time. The late 70s, around ‘77, all the things we’re talking about: this schism between what people perceived as that reached its apex with the whole punk thing and the whole rock crit thing that followed and actually created the punk scene. Then you had disco on the other side. It left people very confused in the music business. Not knowing what to do. John and I weren’t disco artists. We weren’t punk artists. In my open brain I embraced both styles. I like all kinds of cool music. I think if you listen to our records then you’ll hear elements of both of the styles in some of my songs and John’s songs. It was a very tough time and I think it didn’t really resolve itself to any degree until about 1980, 1981, something like that.
JESSE THORN: In 1980, 1981, around then, is when you started to have this golden string of giant smash hits. I wonder how the preceding ten years of recording as Hall & Oates prepared you for the craziness of being super hit makers rather than working musicians with records on the radio.
DARYL HALL: Our whole careers prepared us for that. Our whole lives. As I said before, I started singing in front of people when I was about four years old. John was only about seven. We were used to being in front of audiences and we were used to being in a studio and being recording artists. All these things and all the ups and downs and the disco versus punk and the ups and downs of people’s critical perception of us, it all prepared us for this magnifying glass being on us between ’80 and ’85. We were capable of dealing with it without losing our minds.
JESSE THORN: De La Soul, one of my favorite hip hop groups released the song Say No Go, that sampled one of your vocal hooks from that record. That De La Soul album, Three Feet High and Rising, is a really huge record in the history of hip hop, in part because it sampled so broadly, and the effects on sampling and hip hop were catastrophic because they ended up getting sued by The Turtles, one of whose songs they had sampled and it sort of changed the face of sampling in hip hop. When you first heard that song in 1989, first of all, how did you hear it? And what did you think about the whole situation?
DARYL HALL: Well, it’s an interesting story. I was doing a video for a movie called Earth Girls are Easy. John and I had the closing song. We cut a version of Love Train. So we were doing a video for that song, and in between takes you stand around, and these kids came up to us, just 15 years old or whatever. They had a boom box, and they said check this out, and I go what do you got there? And they said our friends used you on a song. I had no idea what they were talking about. They played me Say No Go on the boom box as I was standing there on the stage. I listened to it, and John was standing beside me, and we said that’s really amazing. What a great idea, sampling somebody. That was new days for things like that.
JESSE THORN: It’s The Sound of Young America, I’m Jesse Thorn. My guest is Daryl Hall, the frequent song writer and lead singer of the duo Hall & Oates who have had innumerable smash hits. More recently he’s been the star of a web series called, “Live from Daryl’s House,” in which he collaborates with musicians both known to him and relatively unknown to him in his - - is it seventeenth century home?
DARYL HALL: Eighteenth.
JESSE THORN: Eighteenth century home. This is sort of an interesting inversion of touring. The idea that you’ve taken the musicians life of going from town to town and turned it into bringing the world to you.
DARYL HALL: That was exactly the idea. I’d been touring my whole adult life, and I thought, okay, well I still like touring, but not on the intense schedule that I’ve had over the years. I wanted to do other things. So I said let’s turn it all upside down, let’s bring the world to me, the internet allows this because it’s a new world. And instead of artists having an act, let’s drop the act, and no audience - - instead of having an audience the audience is a fly on the wall. Basically turning everything that people expect to hear and see in music, turn it upside down.
JESSE THORN: Let’s hear some music from the show. This is my guest, Daryl Hall, with Sharon Jones of the Dap-Kings. They are performing a song called Got a Thing On My Mind.
DARYL HALL: Thank you so much for being on The Sound of Young America, it was really fun to have you on the show.
DARYL HALL: Pleasure to be here.
JESSE THORN: Daryl Hall is one half of the duo Hall & Oates, and the man behind dozens of hit records. He’s also the host of “Live from Daryl’s House,” a web series where he invites musicians as diverse as Todd Rundgren and Sharon Jones and Toots from Toots & The Maytals to collaborate with him musically and check out his cool house and make and eat some food.
Life just hasn't been the same for Arkansas native Kris Allen since he won Season 8 of American Idol.
The singer, songwriter and self taught musician says he's been going non-stop since he captured the idol crown in May 2009.
"You know I wasn't ready to do a ton of interviews or a ton of photo shoots or any of that stuff,” he said.
The 25-year-old's self titled debut album featuring the hit single "Live Like We're Dying" has sold over one and half million copies so far and his success has taken him to new places, like Hawaii where he sang the National Anthem at the Pro Bowl.
"I always knew that I wanted to play music in some form or fashion but I didn't think that I'd be playing like this in Hawaii singing at the Pro Bowl, I never thought that I would be doing this,” he said.
Two years ago, Kris and his brother Daniel decided to drive nine hours to Kentucky to audition for Idol. He saw the show once or twice before but wasn't a huge fan.
He says he never thought he would win.
"Cause it's kinda like a lottery you know who knows what's going to happen they let a lot of good people go,” he explained.
Each year, tens of thousands of American Idol hopefuls don't make it on the show but Allen says that shouldn't stop you from dreaming.
"I would say don't be afraid of anything and figure out what you are really good at and do it and become the best at it,” he said.
He says writing your own music and lyrics can help a great deal for those wanting success in the music biz.
"Strive to become the best that you can, I mean if you really want this do something everyday, whether it be writing music practicing your singing or whatever it is,” he said.
さて、ここで、リトルポーン本部は書いてないことだけど、自分で思ったこと。 私、クリスのアルバムよりも、ライブの音をよく聞いているの。 そのＭＰ３も、アーティストがクリス・アレンになっているので「クリス・アレン｣の再生数としてはきちんとカウントされている。 でも、曲は、Live Like We're Dying (cebu) とか、ＬＬＷＤ(grammy) とかになっちゃってるの。 もし、これらをLive Like We're Dyingに統一すると、クリスのLLWDの再生数のカウンターが効率よく増加するんだと思う。 めんどくささ、その後の自分の不便さ（タイトルで判別できなくなる）など、今天秤にかけて、考えているところ。 もし、やったほうがいいと結論が自分の中で出たら、iTunesで曲のプロパティをいじって曲名を統一し listening dataをクリアし、スクローバーをアンインストール、インストール、します。（やるかどうか不明）
A message to all members of Little Pawns
Hello Little Pawns! We hope you are having a good week. Take a look below to see the latest news.
Next Project - Last.fm If you like listening to music on your computer, this project is perfect for you. Even if you don’t like listening to music on your computer, you can take this project with you to your iPhone or iPod; benefiting Kris at the same time. Our goal is to get all our members up and running on Last.fm in time for album #2! Click here for the 1st task. Keep a look out for task #2 which will be announced shortly.
98.7 Pet-A-Palooza Sunday, March 18 Kris will be performing at 98.7's "Pet-A-Polooza" at Coachman Park in Clearwater, FL. For ticket information, click here. For a chance to win tickets, click here.
Album #2 Tweets
@KrisAllen: Another day of awesome writing! I can't wait for you guys to hear some of this stuff.
@TheMessengersss: @KrisAllen is mad talented. Mad.
@NasriWorld back in the studio with @krisallen for another sexyfresh magical moment!!
@NasriWorld in the studio with @KrisAllen making some sweet sweet magic!!
Until next time, Daniel, Kathy, Emjay, Robin, &Elle
ツイットチェンジオークション クリスの４つのオークション（フォロー、リツイート、メンションそしてメガ）へのビットは4077.5ドルまであがったわ(寄付先はOperation Once in a Lifetime (http://operationonceinalifetime.com/) アメリカの兵隊と家族をサポートする組織） オークションの優勝者はおめでとう！AlrightWithMusicフォローの権利を獲得しておめでとう
Alright With Meビデオコンテスト Julie Mおめでとう！フィッシャープライスにインスパイヤされたビデオでAWMコンテストに優勝したわ。 JulieはBNSのサイン入りコピーを獲得するわ。他のファイナリスト、Jenとyutovicもおめでとう！彼らはクリスのサイン入り写真を獲得するわ。みんなのビデオをチェックするのはこっちね。 http://www.youtube.com/littlepawns#p/c/CA046C8D9B247053
Happy Valentine's Day! A lot has happened since we last spoke.
TwitChange Auction Bids on Kris's 4 auctions (Follow, Retweet, Mention, and Mega) raised $4077.50 for Operation Once in a Lifetime (http://operationonceinalifetime.com/), an organization that provides support to U.S. soldiers and their families. Congratulations to the auction winners, including @AlrightWMusic (winner of the Follow auction).
Alright With Me Video Contest Congratulations to Julie M., winner of the video contest with this Fisher Price-inspired video. Julie will receive an autographed copy of Brand New Shoes! Congratulations also to our other finalists, Jen and Yutovic. They will receive autographed pictures of Kris. Check out all the video submissions here.
Thank you to Kris for donating the CD, to our volunteer judges for their hard work in narrowing down to the final 3, and to all our members for voting!
Little Pawn of the Month for January Congratulations to our latest Little Pawn of the Month - Dorothy (dy77 on Little Pawns, @dy7764 on Twitter). Dorothy has worked hard from the beginning in updating the events section of Little Pawns and trying to get Kris's music played in the Washington D.C. area. Dorothy will also be partnering with another member (pomegranate02) to help lead our next project...
Next Project - Last.fm Stay tuned for details about our upcoming project to increase Kris's presence online through Last.fm. Most of us listen to Kris's music on our computer or iPod/mp3, right? We're going to learn how to make all that listening time benefit Kris. Our goal is to get all our members up and running on Last.fm in time for album #2!
Recent Performance - Decade As many of you know, Kris has been a busy guy lately. Between singing at the ProBowl, writing for his new album, and meeting with collaborators in Los Angeles, Kris took some time out to perform and lead worship at his church's 10th anniversary celebration, a gathering of nearly 14,000 people. If you'd like to check out some of his songs, here are a few YouTube links for you: